> The problem for New Zealanders wanting to get Nat Semi The positon with NS at the moment is -- Avnet are the "official" rep for NS, they also do Microchip, Motorola, OKI, Seiko, and many other of the larger mftrs. If you aren't an account holder you have to deal with a company called Spectron. NS used to be done by Hardie Technologies (HarTech) until they folded and their agencies were grabbed by other reps around town, such as Avnet. I used to deal with HarTech a lot, as they also had Microchip. I switched to Microchip (1) because I got fed up with non-flash Mot parts and (2) got fed up with the system at Avnet. HarTech were always helpful, like Philips, and I could get samples no trouble. However, I can't say the same for Avnet. They're much more company-orientated and quite frankly they're not interested in small buyers. The original intention of Spectron was to collate and compile small orders that they would then approach the reps with. What's happening now, and for some time, is that even Spectron will push you for a tube quantity. As a consequence I've turned to Arrow Components, who are prepared to sell a part-tube quantity and will get you samples. The alternative is going somewhere like RadioSpares, who will charge you 4 times the price for micros or RAM. Retail stores like Dick Smith or Jaycar just don't have those sort of components and besides, I wouldn't trust half the staff there to sit the right way around on a toilet. My last last last resort is a Dick Smith store. Amongst other horror stories, twice I've taken faulty goods back there and seen them put back on the shelf. If you think I'm bagging Avnet in particular, spot on. No, I don't like their sales policies or being dicked around by them carrying out said policies. Even Philips have passed their range on to another company, Active Components, who BTW do a good job with cash sales, as do Arrow and GEC for Atmel. Parallel importing seems to have eased the situation somewhat, but not all mftrs have alternate outlets. I don't want to go complaining about every component rep I've had the rough end of the pineapple from. Suffice it to say I think some of their policies are not helpful to developers. I'm reluctant to try new designs as I know the sort of trouble I'm going to get in trying to find a sample. So often I don't bother, or patch something up out of available components. I can't afford to keep an account going at every rep I MIGHT want samples from one day. I appreciate the "economy of scale", but I can't see why they make it difficult or impossible to buy 3 or 4 items. For example I'm just not prepared to have to buy a tube of chips and have most left unused for some time. The way I figure it, if I was in that business I'd rather make SOME sale than none at all. In the time they spent explaining to me why they can't sell me 1/2 dozen micros they could have taken my money for them. And of course I'm not going back for a larger quantity if I can't get experimental samples in the first place. > Ah well, thats progress for you. Progress as defined by the bean-counters maybe