> >Someone said awhile ago on the list that the quick and dirt way to check >for overdrive is to place your scope on the Crystal drive line (this is the >output of the inverter) and look at the waveform. If you see a nice clean >sine wave it is fine. If there is clipping at the tops of the waves, the >crystal is overdriven. > >Erik Reikes > I searched thru the Mchp site and found the clipping method mentioned in another publication, FACT001.PDF BASIC PIC16/17 OSCILLATOR DESIGN GUIDE. [great doc numbering system - FACT001]. And your memory is good, it does say the OSC out pin. Looks like a simpler way to go than using network analyzers and current probes, as mentioned in AN588. Sounds like the great census of 4 (Bill, Erik, Tom, me) has not seen any problems with leaving Rseries out. Since I was doing a new layout on one of my pcbs, I thought it might be a useful thing to check on. Guess I might stick the ole scope on a few of my systems for good measure anyway. - Dan Michaels Oricom Technologies http://www.sni.net/~oricom ==========================