Geoff, first forget about SPASM v4.7 and get CVASM v5.8 which is fully backward compatible with SPASM. It includes several new features and supports more devices. Tech Tools now own the former SPASM and Parallax Programmer. They have done much to improve both and are continuing development. To get CVASM, go to: http://www.tech-tools.com/ Once you get to the site, select "Support". From there select and download the following: Support Category: Product - CVASM16 Item: PIC software - CVASM16 V.5.8 Item: PIC Documents - CVASM16 Instruction Set Item: PIC Documents - CVASM16 Details Item: PIC Manuals - PIC Tools Manual V.8.0 - Tom At 11:12 PM 2/23/00 -0600, Geoff Child wrote: >Does anyone know a spot to downloaded Spasm. I need to convert some pic >files from the online PIC source book. Dontronics has the allready converted >to microchip format but there seems to be some errors and to recompile with >parpic I need to get the ".lst" file as well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tom Handley New Age Communications Since '75 before "New Age" and no one around here is waiting for UFOs ;-)