Spend a few bucks for the '877 ICD and have it all! --- James Newton mailto:jamesnewton@geocities.com 1-619-652-0593 http://techref.massmind.org NEW! FINALLY A REAL NAME! Members can add private/public comments/pages ($0 TANSTAAFL web hosting) -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Luis Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 02:08 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: RS232 routine for parallel port Hi, I have used the 8051 before and I am trying to decide which PIC device to use in a project. I know that I will need a serial port and I prefer a PIC that uses EEPROM program memory (too lazy to use UV erasable chips). The relatively new 16F877 seems ideal, but the old programmer that I got doesn't support it. Someone told me that I could use one of the older chips (perhaps the 16C84) and use a "widely available" routine that would convert two pins of a parallel port for RS232 comms. I searched the microchip web site but couldn't find anything. Can anyone please confirm this information. If it is possible to use 2 pins of a parallel port for RS232 where can I find the routine? And is it easy to use? Thanks a lot. Luis.