At 08:05 AM 2/22/00 -0800, you wrote: >I think that something is better than nothing and $50 is better than $100. >I'd like to see it program the other chips though. That way, you could use >it as a single development device and debug the targets that are being >stimulated and tested via your test bench with a register monitor and other >traditional debug methods. > >--- >James Newton mailto:jamesnewton@geocities.com 1-619-652-0593 >http://techref.massmind.org NEW! FINALLY A REAL NAME! >Members can add private/public comments/pages ($0 TANSTAAFL web hosting) > Jim, Already got that covered (I think). To minimize costs, the WS(C)T, ie "World's Smallest (Cheapest) TestBench" can be put on a board about 3"x3", and exist as a tiny portable, standalone test instrument, running off a 9v battery. My existing Monitor chip (aka the ICTC - In-Circuit Test Chip) can be extended to include a downloader. Also, an auxiliary board containing a 40pin Zif socket can be connected to the WS(C)T via its logic analyzer port. This port can then be used in 2 modes, one to send programming signals to the Zif, and second to test the newly- programmed target chip. There can also be an RS-232 feedthru to the aux board for host comm with the target chip. The whole thing can be sold as a complete kit, and also in minimal form for tinkerers, as bare pcb + pre-programmed ICTC + host s.w. The aux/programming board will be a separate add-on. Now, if you can just get your '87x/debug chip on line. - Dan Michaels Oricom Technologies http://www.sni.net/~oricom >-----Original Message----- >From: pic microcontroller discussion list >[mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Dan Michaels >Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2000 22:22 >To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: Re: Jim Newton's Idea >Importance: Low > >There is another possiblity here, too. I can put my Monitor/Testbench >chip on a board, add a PC shell program, and sell a kit for say $50 as >the "World's Smallest Cheapest TestBench". It might not be open-source, >but it would be cheap. What do you think? > >- Dan Michaels >Oricom Technologies >http://www.sni.net/~oricom > >