I think that something is better than nothing and $50 is better than $100. I'd like to see it program the other chips though. That way, you could use it as a single development device and debug the targets that are being stimulated and tested via your test bench with a register monitor and other traditional debug methods. --- James Newton mailto:jamesnewton@geocities.com 1-619-652-0593 http://techref.massmind.org NEW! FINALLY A REAL NAME! Members can add private/public comments/pages ($0 TANSTAAFL web hosting) -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Dan Michaels Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2000 22:22 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Jim Newton's Idea Importance: Low There is another possiblity here, too. I can put my Monitor/Testbench chip on a board, add a PC shell program, and sell a kit for say $50 as the "World's Smallest Cheapest TestBench". It might not be open-source, but it would be cheap. What do you think? - Dan Michaels Oricom Technologies http://www.sni.net/~oricom