No. In fact they are quite expensive. For example, they sell the PIC16F84-04/P for some $7.70. I sell it for $4.25. Peter H. Anderson, pha@eng.morgan.edu, http://www.phanderson.com PICs, PIC C Routines, PIC Programmer Kit Sign up for Free and Permanent E-mail at http://www.Africana.com, which increases its donation to African-American education EACH TIME you check your mail or visit a page on the web site.