Whow, this seems to be a subject that arouses PIClisters even more than the best C compiler, robotic lawn things, religious and political matters together. If a few hundered chickens provide a good average and chicken death is not too much of a problem you could initially put a known amount of chickens in a box on a scale, treat them exactly the same as the other thousands of chickens, and have a continuous measure. Maybe you could remove the dead ones manualy and correct for their number. Wouter.