parallax's pbasic commands and Picbasic from mellabs are two differnt things with the same commands? Or has parallax formed some sort of alliance with mellabs to be able to use Picbasic and called it pbasic for their stamps? I know they are the same command set for the most case but Parallax does not market or sell Picbasic, only their stamps with Pbasic. but pbasic and picbasic are the same thing just aimed towards easily programming 2 differnt devices but who owns copyrights on what? Can u even copyright a command language like i know you cant get a exclusive right to an "if statement" but what about something like "high" or other pbasic commands?? any thoughts.. mike Send someone a cool Dynamitemail flashcard greeting!! And get rewarded. GO AHEAD! http://cards.dynamitemail.com/index.php3?rid=fc-41