> Ultiboard comes from Holland, I've used it for years - pre > the IIT merger, and like it. I too have used it pre-merger. It's the only time I have thrown something worth (?) US$10k into the bin. Not only did it frequently crash but it it also disconnected and renamed nets on its own. They charged an arm and a leg for support while delivering demo versions of enhancements. Using Ultiboard cost me a lot more than the purchase price. All of this may have changed with a new name on the box. Steve. ====================================================== Steve Baldwin Electronic Product Design TLA Microsystems Ltd Microcontroller Specialists PO Box 15-680, New Lynn http://www.tla.co.nz Auckland, New Zealand ph +64 9 820-2221 email: steveb@tla.co.nz fax +64 9 820-1929 ======================================================