Carl Moser wrote: > > I'm just getting into PIC's for the first time and it is for a personal > project. I like the idea of In Circuit Programming (ICP) and would like > opinions on a programmer for the PIC1684 and PIC1687. It would be nice but > not a show stopper if the programmer would connect to a solderless > breadboard. Currently I stock 5 different PIC programmers, but if you really really truly want a real development platform with ISP that can jumper onto any target board: DT001 SimmStick Programmer Kit. As well as being a full PICmicro development platform, this programmer has a 4PDT switch which allows you to program a PIC16C/F84 in a SimmStick and run the program straight away. Yes, a load and go operation. This means you don't have to move the PIC16F84 chip from the programmer to a target board as they are one and the same. LOAD/RUN. Straight away!! Hey, we can even do it now with the new all flash PIC16F877 40 pin chips. And you don't need a SimmStick, as you are able to use this principle with your own target board. http://www.dontronics.com/pickaxe.html http://www.dontronics.com/dt001.html http://www.dontronics.com/dt101.html http://www.dontronics.com/dt106.html Don McKenzie mailto:don@dontronics.com http://www.dontronics.com World's Largest Range of Atmel/AVR and PICmicro Hardware and Software. Free Basic Compiler and Programmer http://www.dontronics.com/runavr.html