At 16:33 16/01/00 -0600, you wrote: >It's not quite as good as UMPS yet, but it's about three times faster Three time faster ? Really ? how did you make your measurement ? I would be interested to have some comparison table that include all the test process ... Running a PIC without anything connected on UMPS can be as fast as real pic at 4Mhz on a K6-400. BUT when you put breakpoint, when you connect resource, when you open windows that need graphical drawing its slow considerably the simulation. This is normal and Linux has nothing to gain with its windows object system than MS-Windows itself. >and infinitely cheaper! UMPS is not a freeware and is NOT dedicated to hobbyist, it is dedicated to professionnal usage. I did not know people that work for free. I know nobody that has bought a Ferrari for just $USD1000. You need something cheap: take a look at freeware or shareware ... You need a $USD100 compiler, browse the WEB you will find some, but I did not know any professional that will take a risk to use unstable product. The works needed to setup and solve potential problem on such product will cost much more than buying a reasonable priced product with some support garantee. Regards, Philippe. +----------------------------------------------------+ | Virtual Micro Design | | Technopole Izarbel, | | 64210 BIDART | | FRANCE | | | | Phone: ++33 559.438.458 Fax: ++33 559.438.401 | | | | E-Mail: p.techer@vmdesign.com | | URL: http://www.vmdesign.com | +----------------------------------------------------+