You guys might check out the cc5 compiler by Bengt Knudsen.  There's a free
version that basically has all of the features of the full, but limited
object executable size (1024 words).  For $100 you get one that goes up to
2K, and $250 I believe is the full 8k.

Its a pretty simple tool without all the bells and whistles, but it works
for me.  It costs nothing to check it out.

http://www.bknd.com/

is the address.

-Erik Reikes


At 01:46 PM 1/14/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I had pretty much the same feeling as you.  C on a 12C509 seemed foolish.
>
>However, about a year ago I began fooling with the CCS PCM compiler and I
>have changed my mind.  With a bit of common sense it generates code that is
>more efficient than I can write, life is a whole lot easier and I can write
>code much faster.
>
>However, my feeling is that there is no substitute for a knowledge of the
>machine and assembly.
>
>The CCS compiler includes many modules (I2C, RS232, ADC) etc which to some
>may be a blessing. I opted to simply use the basic C and develop my own
>functional modules.  In part, "I like the control" and I was looking for
>some degree of portability to other compilers.  If you were to read the CCS
>user exchange one might assume the compiler has endless bugs.  In fact, by
>avoiding the modules supplied by CCS I just haven't seen too many bugs.
> Usually, what I think is a bug turns out to be a foolish error on my part.
>
>The CCS compiler integrates nicely with both MPLab and with RF Solution's
>ICE-PIC.  I have also used it with the In Circuit Debugger for the PIC16F87X.
>
>Some code samples are at http://www.phanderson.com/PIC/PICC/
>
>Peter H. Anderson, http://www.phanderson.com, pha@phanderson.com
>
>
>---- Begin Original Message ----
>
>From: "Terry A. Steen" <engineering@MARINAPOWER.COM>
>Sent: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:14:44 -0500
>To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: C?
>
>
>I have always been a bit-man... I prefer to have total control over all the
>
>
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Erik Reikes
Software Engineer
Xsilogy, Inc.

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