On most newer ATX motherboards there is a wake on lan option, with a three pin header which wakes the computer up when there is LAN activity. You might look at using that somehow. Alternately, this IS the piclist, after all. Hook a 12cxxx up to the +5 always on line from the power supply, and a sensing pin to a drive connector +5v. Hook another pin to the power-on connector. Make a program for it which detects when the power supply is 'off' and have it wait for a short period of time, and turn the power on. -Adam "Paul B. Webster VK2BZC" wrote: > > Hello Robert. > > >> I would suspect however it to be an open-collector output. > > It is. > > > And for many motherboards, putting a jumper on the 'pwr sw' pins > > asserts this signal permanently so you don't have to go about pulling > > pins out of the power cable. RTM! > > A manual with that amount of detail is in my experience (of the > cheaper motherboards, by and large :) a bit of a rarity. > > Now the power switch is in fact a toggle, but with no facility AFAIK > for "repeat", so I daresay in this circumstance the toggle logic sees it > at (true) power-up and toggles ON, then stays that way. OK. > > I have/ had (sitting behind me as I speak, went "phut"!) a MB with > that very behaviour now I come to think of it. Started when you power > up, but power switch did not work. > > What is *bad* about it, is that when Windoze powers down the ATX, you > then have to pull the power plug and put it back in to make the thing > power up *next time*. > > I think this transaction is worth the list's attention ;-) > -- > Cheers, > Paul B.