You can try the EDWin software for capture and layout PCB. It cost somewhere around 70 pounds. Moses. moshe@gad-univ.com -----Original Message----- From: Mario Thomaidis [SMTP:mario.thomaidis@UTORONTO.CA] Sent: ש דצמבר 11 1999 9:13 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: PCB Dilemma [OT] Hello I have a question to pose to those you who are familiar with PCB design. I have a PCB I would like to create for production, but am having trouble deciding on what route to take. First of all, I will ask about PCB tools. At this point, I am not inclined to spend several thousand, or even hundreds of dollars for a PCB CAD tool (read: looking for a very low cost solution - will not be used often). To this end, I have noticed that both Protel (30 day evaluation) and Eagle Lite have been mentioned several times before. The problem with Protel is the huge cost (after 30 days) - although the 30 day evaluation period would be more than enough for me to do what I need. The problem with Eagle Lite is that I have a big board to design ~33cm(14")x15cm(6") - so it is not really an option (there are not many components, however - in fact, I think I might even be able to get away with a single sided board with jumpers), but I ask about it because maybe the full Eagle package will be a practical solution. I have in fact tried using Protel 99, but have found it impossible to use given my lack of familiarity and its very poor documentation. I have not tried Eagle Lite since it doesn't support a large enough board. My questions: Do I have a hope for a low cost solution to my PCB design goal? If so, what might it be? If I go the route of the full Eagle package, what does it cost? Is it well documented? If I try the evaluation version of Protel 99, does anyone have any kind useful documentation or hand-holding guidance to provide? I doubt Protel can be worth the money for purchase given that I don't expect to have to make a board this big ever again - can anyone convince me otherwise? Thanks. Mario