the only real luck that i had doing this sort of thing is water based liquid flux.......kestler product....hand pump de soldering pump....manual kind...a 33 watt element.......not to destry the ic's from heat......and a little fan blowing away from the board as not to cool of the iron but to let fumes go the other way.......out the window... using a small paint brush coat the area to be desoldered...heat pin with iron desuck with pump....each pin.... if you don't get it the first time don't worry....move on to another pin as not to heat the ic in the same place for more than 10 seconds.......when all pins look pretty empty take small needle nose pliers and wiggle the pin from the solder side till loose.....remove ic....my sucess rate is very high ..maybe 1 outta 10 was damaged. when you start talking that it may take a couple hours to remove ic's...vers you having to work a weeks pay to buy the ic's i find it no at all that bad a decision...tim -----Original Message----- From: Ian Smith To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 12:36 PM Subject: [OT] How to desolder old components? >I have a number of useful chips on junk boards that I want >to use with some PIC Microcontrollers by Microchip, but am not >experienced on desoldering. I know many boards are made with >lead solder, so I work in well ventilated areas. > >Anyone know an easier way than prying ICs off while heating >the pins and still having a working chip at the end of it all? >Any solvents that eat solder? Maybe solvents that eat the >circuit board away? Some sort of oven arrangement? Magic? > >On a related note.. anyone have tips on how to get the silicon >wafers out of dead ICs? I have used tools to chip and scrape >away the black whatever and have about a dozen successes. Yeah, >it took a long time, I destroyed a lot of (already dead) chips >and being slightly obsessive compulsive really helps after a >few hours of picking away at the case with a needle. :-) >Perhaps something the (surprise!) eats away the case? > >Happy New Year! > >-- >IanSmith@erie.net