The following link relates to a recent decision by the US authorities to raid a maker of kitset electronics, confiscate $30,000 of equipment and start a prosecution relating to the possibility of the equipment being used for terrorist purposes. There are several articles plus a discussion group of variable worth. The maker has apparently been selling this and similar kits for 25 years without problems. While it's hard to be sure of the merits of this sort of case from this distance (world gets in the way) it is probably worth all US based list members who are interested in electronics, at least having a look and deciding whether its worth "writing their congressman". Seems a bit like the thin edge of the wedge, but maybe not? RM ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This is the on-line discussion group regarding the recent Federal Government restriction on a number of Ramsey Electronics hobby kits and products. Since this action, we have been swamped with inquiries regarding the restriction. This discussion group was created to keep you informed. http://208.46.148.11/ 1st article http://208.46.148.11/cyberskip.htm ========================================== A recent US Federal Government action has prohibited us from selling a number of products to you because they feel you are using it for illegal use. For over 25 years, Ramsey Electronics, Inc. has been selling wireless hobby and educational kits for your fun, pleasure, and education in kit building. Investigators believe world class "kidnappers and organized crime" are using things like our $5.95 wireless microphone kits for their "surreptitious" international espionage use! When in reality, they've been used for years and years as a valuable educational kit used in things like model trains, amateur radio, school projects, Scout projects, baby monitoring and more. Further, our FM-5 kit has become the most popular "starter" kit to learn all about Surface Mount Technology. Schools use them around the Country for their students first hands-on project with SMT! Yes, we've been advised that some of our award winning low cost hobby kits, the same ones you see below, and that were FORMERLY ordered by thousands of scouts, schools and hobbyists for all these years, might be in violation of US Code Title 18, Section 2512 because they believe their "primary use" was designed for such "surreptitious" use, and not for hobby, and educational use. Our catalogs have always had a very specific notice regarding the proper use of these products, and strongly warns against such improper use, but apparently that wasn't good enough either....GO FIGURE! ================================================= Russell McMahon _____________________________ >From other worlds - www.easttimor.com www.sudan.com What can one man* do? Help the hungry at no cost to yourself! at http://www.thehungersite.com/ (* - or woman, child or internet enabled intelligent entity :-))