Sorry about the last message. whn I senf to the list I just hit reply to another message, change the subject, and delete the old text. The "replied to" text in that other message should just be ingnored. heres my message again.... I just got a pic12c671/jw, only to find out that my version (1.20)of PBC doesn't support it, or if it does I don't know how. I cannot get the firmware upgrade as my original disk was been lost in the nether-regions of my house ofr quite some time, I have look for hours. Is there any other way to get my version(1.20) to support the pic12c671? Are there any pics close enough to it that would work on the 671 if I compiled it for that different pic? I am on a tight budget and cannot afford a new piece of software. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com