Make sure rb3 is pulled low on powerup and resets. It bit us also.. It goes into low voltage programming mode. best regards, Giles -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Kelly J Kohls Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 3:38 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Problem with 16F877 Greetings all, Has anybody experienced any problems with the 16F877's? I have two that I have tried programming the same code into and sometimes the code runs and sometimes it doesn't. Any ideas? Kelly Kohls, N5TLE Dallas, TX Email: kkohls@juno.com OR n5tle@qsl.net OR n5tle@arrl.net Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/n5tle/ ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.