Hey, what do you consider hobby pricing? Well anyway, we bought a C compiler for $99.00 or close to that. It is from Custom Computer Services. Now for better pricing: You can also download their demo compiler that simply does not contain all the header files for all the pics. Actually, do download the demo, because for some reason the paid for version does not have the help file that the demo has. I would recommend you play with the ASM before you try the C, as a lot of times we revert to debugging by looking at the code the compiler built. Don't worry, the ASM is not hard. And lots of people can help you with it. Happy Holidays, Giles -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Steve George Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 4:18 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Newbie question Hi there, I've been gearing up to start learning PIC's. I really prefer to use a C compiler of some sort. Are there any available in the hobbiest price range? I see that Microchip has a trial version on their site but I couldn't find any pricing information for a full version. Any help would be greatly appreciated :) Steve George