This apparently can't be done (or Jory doesn't want to do it). The argument
against this that I have heard in the past is that this line always grows to
include other items and consumes more bandwidth than the help request posts
that result from it's not being there.

Don't get me wrong, I feel that a link to www.piclist.com at the bottom of
every post would just about stop this nonsense, but I think that a lot more
people would have to ask for it, or something like it before it would
happen. And even if it were done, your can rest assured that some epsilon
minus would miss it and ask for help to the list.

You would think that people posting to the PICList would try typing in
www.piclist.com for instructions or searching for it. Many PICList FAQ pages
exist.

I'm working on an autoresponder that will look for messages that are likely
to be requests for admin help and automatically respond not to the list but
to the poster, with a "if you were looking for help, here it is" type
message. BackOffice doesn't want to let me see the posters email address
however, so the new open source email server at piclist.com is being tested
for reliability and ease of modification. Notice that my, Jory's and Mark's
posts can come from name@piclist.com now. If it works out, we may not have
to respond to this ourselves in the future. Which may result in the
following SNAFU:

1. poster asks for admin help on the main list.
2. someone responds (not knowing that the autoresponder has taken care of
it).
3. 5 people and 2 admins respond to that telling the responder that he
doesn't need to.
4. 20 people pile on the discussion with suggestions about how the PICList
can be improved.

This really can't be helped can it? <SAD GRIN> I'm still going to try to
improve it, however.

James Newton (PICList Admin #3)
mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593
PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com

-----Original Message-----
From: pic microcontroller discussion list
[mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of J Borgaard
Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 9:34 AM
To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: "unsubscribe" [ADMIN]


Many lists have found the easy way to solve this - add a one or two-line
trailer to every post with FAQ/unsub/archive links/instructions. I haven't
seen list software yet that can't be made to do this as it's very common and
a useful tool for everyone.

JB
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pic microcontroller discussion list
> [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Mauricio Jancic
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 10:19 AM
> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: "unsubscribe"
>
>
> Hi Joe. Please pay attention. Here at the pic list (i'm a
> subscriber) we receive about 2 messages a day that are
> requesting to be unsubscribed. The  thing it that next time
> you subscribe to a discusion list, please be aware of reading
> the information given by the administrator.
>         Now, if you wish to unsub. you must send a message to:
>
>         listserv@mitvma.mit.edu
>
>         with no subject and with this body:
>
>         "unsub piclist"
>
>         without coutes. And that's it!
>
>         Yours, Mauricio Jancic
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De:     Joe Merola [SMTP:jmerola@TRUEPOSITION.COM]
> Enviado el:     Lunes, 20 de Diciembre de 1999 01:33 p.m.
> Para:   PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Asunto: "unsubscribe"
>
>  "unsubscribe"
>