Keith, Not even OT, I do this sometimes to look at PIC binary files. We use Hex Workshop, from Breakpoint software, you can get a free trial copy. It not only views binaries any way you want, but allows editing. It even allows you to view (and Edit!) raw disk sectors. Be scared of that feature. Check it out at "BreakPoint Software, Inc." www.bpsoft.com -Barry. ------------ Barry King, KA1NLH Engineering Manager NRG Systems "Measuring the Wind's Energy" Hinesburg, Vermont, USA www.nrgsystems.com