Peter wrote: > > Don McKenzie and I have had 'problems' with our ISP in the USA. They > suddenly required every user to change their passwords for general and > secure site access (without notice I might add.) OK, that I accept. What Peter may have omitted to say was that they changed 'our' passwords without telling any one. I set up 3 systems trying to find out if I had a Bill Gates Bug, as there is more than one password involved, but Unix told me I had wrong passwords. There was a big group of Piclisters joined with the same company at the same time. I just wonder how everyone else got on. And I also wonder if anyone ever got a password or credit card number by intercepting an email. It seems hackers work on sites, not emails. Don McKenzie mailto:don@dontronics.com http://www.dontronics.com World's Largest Range of Atmel and PICmicro Hardware and Software StampStick 32K EEPROM Basic http://www.dontronics.com/tiny51.html