Lots of pre-made PLCC adapters out there; Newark's catalog is handy, P. 609, has these for several SOIC packages, $1.39 to $6.49 in 1's. And for up to 20-pin PLCC's, $6.49. Don't see any there for PLCC-44's. Jameco has these with sockets for about $7, on looking more. Many of the SOIC units are designed for "sacrifice one, solder it to the board" type work. PLCC can be done at home by using 1-sided PC board and a "Sharpie" marker, drawing the traces freehand, and then drilling through holes for a .1" header of some kind & soldering IC/header onto the board. If you have shakey hands, good luck. (I didn't say it's EASY, you'll notice; Expect to get Writers' Cramp And expect to go through with a dental pick and clean up the traces, as needed; PLCC traces are pretty fine & close together, 25 mil width on 50 mil centers, same as SOIC's. {1 mil = 0.001" in my terminology here. I use mm for millimeters.)) http://www.pcdmag.com/resources/smt/ is a good place to look up pad specs, BTW. The Press'n'Peel type sheets can do these pretty easily, I imagine; Need to get some & work with them. For darn sure, the Phototypesetters out there can make film for you that'll do this nicely! Doing this with tape and pad outlines on film then photoreducing can be done too, "but why!?" TQFP, that's 12 mil traces on 25 mil centers, get a magnifying glass if you try this manually - lay off the Coffee, lay in a stock of Aspirin too, and make an appointment with your massage therapist and optometrist As a 300 DPI laser has 3.33 mil pixels, that's 3 to 4 pixels wide, and should do OK with the Press'n'Peel type film. A 600dpi laser would be better here. Mark Thomas Brandon wrote: > > I am looking at using a number of devices (CPLDs mainly) that are PLCC only > (at best). From searching the PICList archive I believe with a nice fine > soldering iron, flux and a bit of practice the PLCCs could be hand soldered > to a PCB. However, in prototyping I would far prefer to be able to > breadboard rather than having to make many prototype PCBs. > > So, I would like devices that will allow me to breadboard with PLCCs of > 44pins (minimum) hopefully all the way up to 84 pins. The best idea I can > think of is a small PCB with a PLCC socket in the middle (preferably ZIF but > due to cost maybe only LIF) and pin headers around the outside for > connecting to standard proto board. Now this shouldn't be too hard to > design, the problem is the construction of the PCB. I have little enough > experience doing non SMD scale PCBs so attempting a SMD scale PCB is not > neccesarily high on my list of priorities. Regardless any info on the > feasability of home producing SMD PCBs would be appreciated (i.e. how fine a > pitch can you manage?, what goes wrong with finewr pitch?, what equipment is > needed etc). But, for the moment I would prefer a premade PCB. Does anyone > know where such a PCB could be obtained and an approximate cost. > > Oh yeah, and is it possible to do all this with a 100pin TQFP? > > TIA, > Thomas Brandon. -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.)