You don't even need to do that... just leave them an email at their website, tell them you want one, and they'll trickle it down to your distributor. You can also ask for samples, and if you say you have an ap that may sell, you'll get them to you also (OTPs though). At 06:54 AM 12/10/99 -0800, James Paul wrote: > All, > > Just as an FYI, you don't have to download anything at all. > Just talk to you Microchip disty in your area, or contact > Microchip directly and ask for their CD. It has MPLAB on it, > as well as all the Ap-Notes and data sheets. It is basically > an image of their website, so if you can navigate one, you can > navigate the other as well. Beats downloading a large file. > And you alway have the data ready and at your fingertips. > > Regards, > > Jim > > > >On Fri, 10 December 1999, Peter wrote: > >> >> The operative word is 'beginner'. Why should 8MB of program called MPLAB be >> dumped on a beginner? How many people are put off when told they must d/l a >> program about the same size as IE5 in order to 'begin' a possible hobby. >> >> My Kit 81 has its own assembler (Manning) specifically written for the >> PIC16F84. There are no other PICs or 8MB of code options to >> confuse/intimidate the beginner. >> >> The programmer software is the free proven software of P16PRO Lite, >> specifically for the 16F84. >> >> The latest version of this pcb now shipping (K81V4 photo on my website) has >> the test socket and 5 LEDs so the beginner can immediately see that his >> first program has been a success. To me this is what a beginner need - >> simple tools and reinforcement to build confidence. >> >> Jaycar in Australia are now selling about 100 per month of my Kit 81. >> >> Kit 81 to me is a 'beginners' programmer. >> >> >> 2. THEN after finding their feet they can assess PIC's other than the 16F84 >> and thus look at other programmers and d/l the required fully featured MPLAB. >> regards, >> >> Peter Crowcroft >> DIY Electronics (HK) Ltd >> PO Box 88458, Sham Shui Po, Hong Kong >> Voice: 852-2720 0255 Fax: 852-2725 0610 Email: peter@kitsrus.com >> Web: http://kitsrus.com Betawebsite: http://www.picturefinders.com >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >jim@jpes.com > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Sent from the desk of: Terry Allen Steen, EE engineering@marinapower.com 332 McLaws Circle, Ste 111 757-258-8800 (Voice) Williamsburg, Va 23185 757-258-8805 (FAX) ----------------------------------------------------------------- !I AM A WHALE MAIL USER! If you have a large file to send, goto http://www.whalemail.com send them to: mplengineer Give me your account and I will use it also ----------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our web-site: www.marinapower.com -----------------------------------------------------------------