I just don't want to start a 'mine if better than yours'
discussion here, but try at least to put your programmer
in a case to make them more professional!

Friendly Regards

Octavio Nogueira
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nogueira@propic2.com                  ICQ# 19841898
ProPic tools - low cost PIC programmer and emulator
http://www.propic2.com
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-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Jim Robertson <newfound@PIPELINE.COM.AU>
Para: <PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Enviada em: Quinta-feira, Dezembro 09, 1999 12:32
Assunto: Re: Finding a beginners PIC programmer


> At 11:16 9/12/99 -0200, you wrote:
> >Warp-13 is not 100% compatible with PicStart Plus!!!
> >It can not program 16C5X neither 17CXX whole family!
> >
> >Friendly Regards
> >
> >Octavio Nogueira
>
> True the WARP-13 is not spec'ed to program the 17Cxx
> family but it does program ALL the 16C5x family, and
> even supports the 18Cxxx and 16HV540 parts.
>
> The WARP-13 is 100% compatible with the picstart plus
> other than this. If 17Cxxx family support is required
> then there is the PRIME-17 programmer option.
>
> BTW I Those people who bought the MPLAB upgrade for your
> propic II didn't seem to complain about the lack of
> 16C5x and 17Cxx and 18Cxxx support of your programmer.
>
> BTW II, The warp-13 is an original clean room design, not a
> direct ripoff from what either David Tait or Microchip
> did. ;-)
>
> Friendlier Regards,
>
> Jim
>
>
> >===================================================
> >nogueira@propic2.com                  ICQ# 19841898
> >ProPic tools - low cost PIC programmer and emulator
> >http://www.propic2.com
> >===================================================
> >-----Mensagem Original-----
> >De: Craig Peacock <Craig.Peacock@SENET.COM.AU>
> >Para: <PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> >Enviada em: Quinta-feira, Dezembro 09, 1999 09:23
> >Assunto: Re: Finding a beginners PIC programmer
> >
> >
> >> Steven,
> >>
> >> > I have got to agree with all the comments about the PicStart Plus,
> >> > That was the main reason I choose the warp 13 programmer
> >> > (PicStart Plus compatible) so I can work within mplab
> >> > or with it's own free software, which works very well.
> >>
> >> I agree with Peter. I'm also another Warp-13 user, choosing this
> >> particular programmer because it's compatible with MPLAB, emulating the
> >> PIC Start Plus. It was also cheaper, (Jim quotes a saving of 60% over a
> >> PIC Start Plus) which makes it more attractive to the hobbyist on a
> >> tight budget.
> >>
> >> What Peter forgot to say was the Warp-13 is available from Newfound
> >> Electronics - http://www.new-elect.com/
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Craig Peacock
> >
> Regards,
>
> Jim Robertson
> NEWFOUND ELECTRONICS
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