I noticed Don M. mention about a stamp like setup using an 8051 type chip (Tiny51). So I guess my first question may be directed to Don. Will the Tiny51 work in an AT89C52?? I'm looking for a "no-brainer" way to start learning the Atmel chip. I have 5 of them and want to start cookin' If it won't, does anyone have a "no-brainer" basic setup for playing with these things. I considered a couple of monitors but they require ROMs and RAMs and address latches and the whole bit. What I want is something sitting in the chip with maybe a SEEPROM for storage. Smallest config I can get. John Mullan PS: The end result is having one of these puppies be the brain for my home-brew PBX unit.