Are you sure that this chip is even programmed? Have you been able to read out the HEX file from the chip. It sitting dead on the board at 1.7v makes me think that it is not even running. Did you select the correct clock/crystal option? Could you program another piece so as to rule out a static kill. Keep Hacking John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com