Steven Rightnar wrote: > > Can I get some sugjestions on finding a programmer. I am a beginner and I am > looking for one that would have good supporting documentation. I have found > the schematics for many different programmers what worries me is that after > I build it I will be on my own to figure out any problems that arise. If you want support, you could try the DonTronics DT001 It's the one with the load/go switch for flash devices. Here is a message received minutes ago from the SimmStick support group. ======================================================================== Subject: p16pro & dt001 Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 07:15:47 -0500 Resent-From: sisuser@ip.co.za Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 23:13:04 +1100 From: "colin kerr" Reply-To: sisuser@ip.co.za To: "chat reply" Thanks Tim, Andy & All. I have now got my DT001 board programming 16c71 chips. After I found the config table I was away. Previously I had all the data lines inverted . Onto the next fault. After this it would only program the first byte. (incorrectly) I repaced the plug pack with the lab supply at 18v and it programmed and verified. I had monitored theVpp with a CRO and could not see it dipping but it must have been. This is what happens when you use too much test equipment. Now I have it working with a stronger plug pack and it still works OK. Thanks again All. Don McKenzie mailto:don@dontronics.com http://www.dontronics.com World's Largest Range of Atmel and PICmicro Hardware and Software StampStick 32K EEPROM Basic http://www.dontronics.com/tiny51.html