I bought mine from RS Components. A set of DB9, DB15 and DB25 for crimp cable type plugs and sockets. The set cost me OZ$240.00. The cost was worth the reduction in time spent making cases and needing DB holes. These are the simpler types where you require a vice to hold the punch and an 8" spanner... Nino. -- ****************************************************** * Antonio (Nino) Benci * * Professional Officer / Electronic Services Manager * * EMAIL - nino.benci@sci.monash.edu.au (work) * * - fleatech@smartchat.net.au (private) * ******************************************************