I use a belt sander to take the lettering off in about 2 seconds. I push the chip into anti-static foam first so static buildup from the belt doesn't zap the chip. I actually started doing this because I make devices that electronics technicians use and I didn't want the curious ones to see that I did the whole thing on a PIC and that they should learn about PICs themselves and do the same thing. I don't worry that much about protection because there is just so much magic that I can do with 30 instructions and 2K of memory that couldn't be done by 50% of the people that read this list if they wanted. Wagner Lipnharski wrote: > V sml wrote: > > Anyone know of a quicker way than sanding off the lettering? What are > > the side-effects of encapsulating IC with epoxy? and where to find the > > type of epoxy? > > Been there, did that. Use regular sandpaper, and sand it until you see > the chip bones... :) > > When you do it the surface gets light gray and you "think" it's done, > but still ink below that. A light film of oil can reveal all your chip > secrets and love life :) > > Remember that the most silly hacker can identify your chip in less than > 45 seconds, package, crystal position, capacitors, input and output > pins, power and so on, very fast. Again, been there, did that. I know > some guys that can identify a dozen "no-name" chips in a PCB faster than > you take to "blank" them with sandpaper. > > Encapsulate chips, or even the whole board, is a solution, but nothing > that a good solvent during the night can't just dissolve everything back > to the nice black readable chips. Remember, everything a hacker needs > is a semi-disolved board, it will increase his appetite. > > There is one way, very hard to hack, but it cost. We can produce for > you a tinny board over ceramic, glass or even FE4, using your circuit > with chips in die form. The final encapsulation is in metal it turns to > be a large chip, 1x1 inch or bigger. All a hacker hates is a customized > proprietary chip. In this large substrate we can also accommodate SMT > resistors, capacitors and gates in general. Today almost all > manufacturers can supply their chips in die form. If you are interested > for a small large production email me.