Sort-of.... Get a GOOD vendor who will pay the up-front cost, order the initial run, and prorate the expense into the cost of the parts. Then, it's just value added expenses... ie, $0.15/$0.20 per device. At 06:02 PM 11/24/99 -0200, you wrote: >You have to pay about US$2000 to Microchip as MASK production and buy 10000 >pieces in a year. > >Marcelo > >>Do you know what the minimum volume required for a mask is >>for the 12bit instruction PICs? >> >>Craig >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: pic microcontroller discussion list >>> [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Marcelo Yamamoto >>> Sent: November 24, 1999 12:28 PM >>> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >>> Subject: Re: REPHRASED--In which PICs is the copy protection >>> >>> >>> ROM Version is the most in-vulnerable. OTP is a EPROM version without the >>> window, also known as PROM. ROM chip is produced under a custom made MASK >>> config. >>> >>> Marcelo >>> >>> Craig wrote: >>> >>> >So what you are saying is that the OTP devices are the most >>> in-vulnerable? >>> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: pic microcontroller discussion list >>> >> [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Wagner Lipnharski >>> >> Sent: November 24, 1999 11:03 AM >>> >> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >>> >> Subject: Re: REPHRASED--In which PICs is the copy protection most >>> >> easilybreached? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> If you consider the fact that any "field programmable unit" (eprom, >>> >> eeprom and flash) has a kind of "volatile" protection bits, while the >>> >> ROM type has fuses (that are not reversible), then all e2prom, >>> eprom and >>> >> flash devices can be considered "more vulnerable" to piracy. >>> >> Wagner >>> > >>> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Sent from the desk of: Terry Allen Steen, EE engineering@marinapower.com 332 McLaws Circle, Ste 111 757-258-8800 (Voice) Williamsburg, Va 23185 757-258-8805 (FAX) ----------------------------------------------------------------- !I AM A WHALE MAIL USER! If you have a large file to send, goto http://www.whalemail.com send them to: mplengineer Give me your account and I will use it also ----------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our web-site: www.marinapower.com -----------------------------------------------------------------