Sadly, the IEEE 802.3 Spec isn't available online, you have to purchase it from IE3. I did come across a site that MIGHT help: http://ece.wpi.edu/courses/ee535/hwk3cd95/harveywl.html Another thing that might help is trying to find the nitty gritty on the OSI layers. Regards, Tim Hamel In a message dated 11/19/99 1:15:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, firewall_fred@HUSHMAIL.COM writes: > Parts of this are happening on a pic, so it's not entirly unrelated. I need > the actual specifications for a 10Base-T network. I'm talking about the > actual signals traversing the wire between the card and the hub, not the > packet formats, collision detection, etc. Is there a 10MHz carrier? Do the > two devices simply send serial data at 10MHz, or is some other system going > on here? How does a hub know when a card is connected - is there a certain > keep-alive signal to tell it this, or do the lines have DC voltages to > indicate > a connection? I know there's an IEEE spec for this somewhere, but there > has to be some public domain info as well - I'm just unable to find it. > It may also be a possibility to use the AUI interface instead, but I have > the same issue with that - NO information available anywhere I look. > > ANY pointers would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks!