Robert, in addition to comments from Dennis and Steve Baldwin, it is common to use parallel 0.1uf caps to provide more capacity and lower ESR. This is a common technique when designing CPLD's and FPGAs. Search through previous articles in the comp.arch.fpga news group for more info. As far as tantalum caps, there is a good reason that the market for them is `huge'. They provide capacity and low ESR in a small space but they cost more than monolithic solutions. While they do have a rather `dramatic' failure mode, they are used in critical systems that operate in land, sea, air, and space environments. It boils down to good engineering. If you specify a 10uf/6V tantalum cap in a 5V environment where there may be large transients, it's going to fail but so will the chips on the 5V rail... I often specify a tantalum and a 0.1uf in parallel. The tantalum provides the capacity and the other the fast response to transients. Again, this depends on the environment. - Tom At 10:59 PM 11/11/99 -0500, Robert A. LaBudde wrote: >At 09:35 AM 11/10/99 +1100, Dennis wrote: >> >So the output capacitor should be no smaller than 0.1 uF and no larger than >> >200 uF. Usually the breakpoint is in the cost of the capacitor. Since you >> >can buy 0.47-1.0 uF tantalum caps for the same price as 0.1 uF, using a >> >0.47 uF or 1.0 uF tantalum is the best choice. >> >> >Larger capacitors provide no advantage at low frequency, since the output >> >impedance of the regulator is very low (e.g., 1 mOhm). At high frequencies, >> >distributed bypassing works better in any even. >> >>Only if the CAPS are suitable for high frequency stuff. There is no need to >>use a large cap (Say 1uF) that has a high impedance at RF. In this case a >>small cap say 100pF ceramic would be better. > >Having found some more information, I thought I'd revive this issue. > >See the attached figure showing capacitor impedance vs. frequency. > >Consider the power regulation issue again: > >If the supply is, say, 5 V, and the ripple is to be kept less than 1% = 50 >mV, and the package is going to pull 100 mA, then an impedance of 50 /100 = >0.5 ohm can be tolerated. If only a 10 mA load, then this increases to 5 ohms. > >A 1 uF tantalum has a flat impedance curve below 1 ohm from 100 kHz up to >10+ MHz. > >A 0.1 uF monolithic ceramic has sharpness (Q) in its impedance curve, so >its impedance is below 1 ohm only between 2 and 10 MHz. It acts as a notch >filter at about 1 MHz. > >A 1000 pF poly film cap has < 1 ohm impedance only from 50 MHz to 1 GHz, >and acts as a notch filter at about 100 MHz. > >If a PIC circuit operates < 20 MHz, why would you prefer a smaller ceramic >over the 1 uF tantalum, when it's got a better bandwidth on low impedance? >Particularly since at 20 MHz the tantalum is probably lower impedance than >the smaller capacitance ceramic? > >If op-amps with frequencies below 1 MHz are driven by the supply, higher >capacitance is a more important factor in impedance than type is. > >So I ask again: Why use a small capacitor to bypass power on these types of >circuits? Why isn't the 1 uF tantalum a good solution, albeit a few cents more? > >It still seems to me you only need a very large capacitor at the input of >the regulator, with 1-100 uF at the output, and 1 uF tantalums at the chip >level to control switching noise. > >As I said before, I'm not an EE, so perhaps I'm missing something in the >spec sheets here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tom Handley New Age Communications Since '75 before "New Age" and no one around here is waiting for UFOs ;-)