I have also built the programmer by Jens D. M. Will this thing work properly with JDM84 and PIP02???? I also tried his PicRead and PicProg and neither one of them seems to work either. !MCLR rises to 13.75v to program (spec says 12-14 so I figure this is good). RB6 and RB7 are held at about 0.5v so I also assume this is good (strobes with data activity). JDM84 says it found the programmer. I have checked the construction with the schematic at least a dozen times and tried different chips (in case one was bad). The still verify using the ultra-simple programmer interface. No data was changed. Anyone familiar with this programmer PLEASE send info and results or clues as to what might be wrong. John Mullan