In the latest Australia "Silicon Chip" November 1999 There is a Project "Car speed alarm" uses a PIC16F84 For more about the magazine see their web site www.siliconchip.com.au or if you have a great project and it should be published Email silchip@siliconchip.com.au (I'm just a reader) ==================== more ================ Also there is a another project "Christmas tree" uses a AT90S2313 this is a 20 pin device microcontroller for Manufacture's data sheets application notes http://www.atmel.com Sample start up code http://.www.dontronics.com/8515.html More simple code and an FAQ http://www.avr-forum.com/ If you are a speed reader from this group and a big Email box and would like to read more send Email to atmel-request@pic.co.za with the word ' JOIN ' in the body of the Email