Friends, Doing a quick search for the availability of "FLASH" PICs at Digi-Key I found that they have these in stock: PIC16F874-04I/P (4MHz Industrial Temp DIP) PIC16F877-04/P (4MHz DIP) I also think I saw some PLCC packages for the PIC16F874. Also, for all you AVR nuts out their (or people that want to be) JAMECO (www.jameco.com) now sells the AVR family. Figured someone somewhere is looking for these parts. Best regards, Steven Steven Kosmerchock Father/Student/Engineering Technician CELWAVE (Soon to be RFS) Phoenix Az USA Email: steve.kosmerchock@celwave.com www.geocities.com/researchtriangle/lab/6584