Thank you for you good intention. I think we should not fork the list further if the list-master do not mind accomodating those areas that you are setting out to achieve. Otherwise most of us would end up subscribing to all the forks. Useful contents would not go up but work does and noise does. Ling SM > You can use the web page http://www.montanadesign.com/maillist.html easier > now if you want to sign up. Thanks to Matt Bonner for pointing this out to me.