I'm still using the first copy of win95 I got. I did a dual install over win3.1 (which I still have operational), and I can boot up in DOS 6.2 with no windows what so-ever. It's all on a 6 year old 486 and has never let me down yet after upteen 1000's of hours use - (touch wood). It does everything I need and reasonably fast, PIC, PCB and Schematics design, Windows software, even word processing and PDF creation as well as web access etc etc ad nauseum. I haven't had a need to jump on the technology band wagon yet, but I feel that time will be forced on me sooner or later. These new CD writers aren't too friendly with ol' grandpoppy 486. It's amazing, I upgraded to a new whiz bang windoze compiler, and the result was an increase in code size by 200K and the application runs about 20% slower. There's so many curtains over windows now, it's getting harder to see the cracks. -- Best regards Tony http://www.picnpoke.com Email sales@picnpoke.com