Hi i just got my EPIC programmer and when i plug in my PIC16C84 and try to progr am with the sample program they give u and another sample hex file i have it say s invalid something at address 0000...however when i read the chip all the space s where of course 3FFF and while that was loaded into the program area i hit the WRITE button and it did indeed write to the chip all 3fff's but it does work. So am i to assume the problem is in my code?? but it assembled fine no errors..? ??? Also anyone know if its possible to program Serial EEPROMS or PIC16C54's through the EPIC? I know u cant do '54's with their software anyway...but maybe there is another pic i can select that will make the program think its a differnt PIC thats plugged in..??? mikE Send someone a cool Dynamitemail flashcard greeting!! And get rewarded. GO AHEAD! http://cards.dynamitemail.com/index.php3?rid=fc-41