> Yes! I think you mean, shine the LED at the glass from (say) 45 degrees > from normal, and have the Photodiode at ANY angle other than 45 degrees > from normal to the glass on the far side? THAT makes good sense, can > have both aiming in parallel at 45 degrees to normal at the same patch > of glass/plastic, something like (Digikey p. 575, Q994 catalog) the QT > Optoelectronics H23A1QT-ND (IR Interrupter module) at $0.73 would be > great, possibly? This'd detect the first bit of fogging, exactly what I > want, sensor position will be the thing to take care on here Or is > Visible light better to use, here? (Most everything bounces off small > water drops fairly well, I thought?) Should be. What we're doing is actually catching the specular reflections off the drops, but missing the big one from the plate. I used emitter direct at the target, and sensor at 45 degrees, with some baffles to keep the sensor from seeing the emitter. LEDs emit ALL OVER. > Hmm, do I need an ADC or can I read this photosensor directly off a > 12C509A, I wonder? Depends on your ckt, photo transistors output current, not voltage. Me, I'd run the LED hot, and make the phototransistor "numb" to avoid problems with other light getting in (possible?)