The other thing is that there are probably a number of people on the
list who'll program a 17C43 for you, ship them the chip & a return
package and optionally some "beer money" if you want to, and they'll zap
the chip when they get to it & mail it back to you.  I've done that a
few times, gets people unstuck (and have had to borrow someone else's
help in the same way, myself, in the past.  Richard and I met that way
<G>)  I think all of us know what being stuck for lack of THE tool you
need, feels like, and detest it <G>

  Mark

Martin McCormick wrote:
>
>         This sounds very good.  I was not aware of this at all.  Sorry
> for the ranting, especially since the list has really gotten much
> better.
>
> Dwayne Reid writes:
> >Martin - please talk to Jim Robertson again.  I believe that he has an
> >upgrade for the Picstart+ that allows it to work with his DOS based
> >programming software.  Ask him about 4LAB for the picstart+.