Most PC com ports do not supply enough voltage to put the chip into programming mode. My AMD K6 333 will not program via my bare bones programmer. However, many "Multi-IO" boards with com ports on them do work. I put one into my 486 and have no problem programming. the programming voltage has to be OVER 12volts. 11.9 will not work well. Try your programming efforts on a few different computers and you will likely find one that works. John Mullan -----Original Message----- From: Mike M [SMTP:elektrikman@DYNAMITEMAIL.COM] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 11:18 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: COM84 programer trouble Hey guys...i built a Com84 programmer, just a direct hookup right to the chip and it pulls Vdd programming voltage from the com port...Now, its all definitly wired correctly, however i run the com84 drivers, and then start PIP-02, and when i hit veryify it says verify failed, and when i try to program sometimes the bar goes from 0-100% real slow and i thought it was working but when ithit 100% it said write failed. im programing or trying to program a 16C84. HELP! I may have posted this message before but i never recieved a copy to myself so i assume i addressed it wrong and it didnt go through thanks.. mike m. Send someone a cool Dynamitemail flashcard greeting!! And get rewarded. GO AHEAD! http://cards.dynamitemail.com/index.php3?rid=fc-41