A couple of ideas: 1. Use a pre-regulator to a low drop out regulator to get the Vin low enough. 2. Use LP mode xtal oscillator to lower operating current. Chris Eddy @MITVMA.MIT.EDU> on 10/15/1999 09:30:18 AM Please respond to pic microcontroller discussion list Sent by: pic microcontroller discussion list To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU cc: Subject: Low current power for a PIC Associates; I have a PIC that must live off of a 220uF cap for 7 seconds. I can get the PIC to consume low power, but I am having trouble getting the regulator designed. The 78L05 sucks 2-3mA Q current, way too much. Looking for 50-100uA. The low dropout regs are neat, but they have a very limitted Vin max. I need 30V. I built a pass regulator with a res, zener, and NPN trans, which meets my goals, but since the current through the zener is low, then as the V on the C drops off, then the V on the zener drops off, and the V on the PIC droops as well. This causes the RC osc to skew, and my highly important timer gives me predictable garbage! Any great ideas? Chris Eddy Pioneer Microsystems, Inc.