Hey guys...i built a Com84 programmer, just a direct hookup right to the chip an d it pulls Vdd programming voltage from the com port...Now, its all definitly wi red correctly, however i run the com84 drivers, and then start PIP-02, and when i hit veryify it says verify failed, and when i try to program sometimes the bar goes from 0-100% real slow and i thought it was working but when ithit 100% it said write failed. im programing or trying to program a 16C84. HELP! I may ha ve posted this message before but i never recieved a copy to myself so i assume i addressed it wrong and it didnt go through thanks.. mike m. Send someone a cool Dynamitemail flashcard greeting!! And get rewarded. GO AHEAD! http://cards.dynamitemail.com/index.php3?rid=fc-41