> Ok, this is getting political. I'd appeciate it you you all could head > this thread off at the start. > > -Adam Yes! Well said Adam -- polite, reasonable and witty. Too bad some here will not be reasonable enough to listen, smart enough to understand, or responsible enough to comply. Listening to engineers debate history and economics while steeped in propaganda is about the most boring and irrelevant thing imaginable! Sound and fury . . . Randy