You should be able to find wire recorders at garage sales, antique stores, etc. My high school girlfriend's grandmother had one that we played with. They SHOULD still exist. You shouldn't have to build your own. I think her machine was a Webcor. Harold Harold Hallikainen harold@hallikainen.com Hallikainen & Friends, Inc. See the FCC Rules at http://hallikainen.com/FccRules and comments filed in LPFM proceeding at http://hallikainen.com/lpfm ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.