On Sat, Oct 02, 1999 at 10:43:25PM +1200, Graham Daniel wrote: > Niklas Wennerstrand wrote: > > > I have stumble on a pdf file on the new Microchip CD-ROM under Download\lit\ truth.pdf > > This is a comparison between the AVR and the PIC if any one is interested. > > Regards > > Niklas Interesting that it's on the latest CD -- there was a recent thread on this list about that document having been removed from their website. > Down side is that the Atmel free assembler is very rudimentary (ie not allowin g nested > macros or conditional directives) Up side is that the IAR assembler is also free, and it is much more functional. You can go to IAR's website -- http://www.iar.com -- and navigate down, or you can try this frame reference: http://www.iar.com/products_EW/workzone/h1v3_workzone.asp?workzone=2 You need to download both the free assembler and the Workbench demo, and install them separately. The demo contains a help file for the workbench demo that contains, AFAIK, the only available documentation for the assembler. As I mentioned yesterday, you can also use the GNU tools for the AVR. Relevant URLs are: http://medo.fov.uni-mb.si/mapp/ http://members.xoom.com/volkeroth/index_e.htm http://members.xoom.com/Paulo_Soares Recent versions of AVA can generate object files that are compatible with Atmel's Windows-based tools, and both GCC and AVA are available for Windows. In addition, work is beginning to port the standard GNU binutils (including the gas assembler, although AVA will probably still be supported) to the AVR. --Bob -- ============================================================ Bob Drzyzgula It's not a problem bob@drzyzgula.org until something bad happens ============================================================ http://www.drzyzgula.org/bob/electronics/ ============================================================