I've recently ordered (but not yet received) the STK200 and a small assortment of AVRs and am interested in hearing PIC users' perspective on the Atmel chips. Also would like more info about their ICE200. Sorry about the [OT] post, but who better to comment on the AVRs than PICsters? If I ask on the AVR list I expect too many responses from people who have an almost religious attachment to that line. Thanks, - Nick -