> Someone recently informed me that Motorola > and Zilog both have low cost processors (< $1.00 US). Zilog offer a number of processors in their Z8 and Z8+ ranges. Some are extremely good value for money - arguably better than anything else available at similar cost. Some are under $1US and for a little over $1US (about $1.20?) they have the Z8E001 with the new Z8+ core. This has a 1uS cycle time for ALL instructions, very good addressing modes, real stacks, hardware PWM, several 8 and 16 bit timers depending on PWM use (eg 16 bit hardware PWM plus a single independent 16 bit autoreload timer), 1 comparator and more. A nice device. For one project I could not find anything else that would do the job without paying much more. Availability will have to be determined in today's climate - semiconductor shortages are bad and getting worse for everyone.. Intro tools are excellent. There is a basic REAL emulator for $100. This does NOT have a realtime trace buffer but allows compile, download and run to in circuit target from a PC, multiple breakpoints, single step, view all memory and registers etc. Assembler and IDE is free. It is the best value intro kit I have seen (including PIC, AVR, Scenix). For many purposes this is all the tool you will need for development. I think they have improved things somewhat since Dave van Horn's experiences - seems so anyway. They also have "real" ICE boxes with realtime trace buffers etc but I have no experience of these. I would rate the Z8 as a nicer processor to use than PIC which is not to say that it replaces PIC - just that the linear address space, wider instruction set etc make it less of a shock to get going on. Little things like real stacks, not having to do a complex context saving dance on interupt and more really helps. It still has some unique concepts top come to grips with in order to wring best code efficiency from it - you can effectively address memory with 4, 8 or 12 bit addressing depending on what you are trying to do and there are page pointers if required. Heresy - I'd say the AVR family is nicer BUT not as cheap for bottom end applications. . _____________________________ What can one micro-man* do? Help the hungry at no cost to yourself! at http://www.thehungersite.com/